விக்கிப்பீடியா:Issues with google translation in Tamil Wikipedia: திருத்தங்களுக்கு இடையிலான வேறுபாடு

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==Translation Issues==
==Translation Issues==

=== Article's Title ===
=== Article's Title ===

* Article titles are in the English language or mixed. They should be in Tamil (Translated or Transliterated)
* Article titles are in the English language or mixed. They should be in Tamil (Translated or Transliterated)
* Article titles are incorrectly translated, and/or formatted.
* Article titles are incorrectly translated, and/or formatted.


=== Technical Terms ===
=== Technical Terms ===

Many articles require the use of proper Tamil technical terms. For guides and references please refer to [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:கலைச்சொல் செயல்பாடுகள் ஒருங்கிணைவு|கலைச்சொல் செயல்பாடுகள் ஒருங்கிணைவு]]. [http://ta.wiktionary.org Tamil Wiktionary] has more than 1,12,000 terms. If the user needs help, request for help [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:கலைச்சொல் ஒத்தாசை|here]]
Many articles require the use of proper Tamil technical terms. For guides and references please refer to [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:கலைச்சொல் செயல்பாடுகள் ஒருங்கிணைவு|கலைச்சொல் செயல்பாடுகள் ஒருங்கிணைவு]]. [http://ta.wiktionary.org Tamil Wiktionary] has more than 1,12,000 terms. If the user needs help, request for help [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:கலைச்சொல் ஒத்தாசை|here]]


=== Style and Prose ===
=== Style and Prose ===

It is critical to write the articles in a style appropriate for an encyclopedia. This style is different from that of a blog, or popular magazines. Please refer to [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:நடைக் கையேடு|நடைக் கையேடு]] for further guidance.
It is critical to write the articles in a style appropriate for an encyclopedia. This style is different from that of a blog, or popular magazines. Please refer to [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:நடைக் கையேடு|நடைக் கையேடு]] for further guidance.


=== Translation Quality ===
=== Translation Quality ===

* English word for word translation is adopted which results in being not intelligible in the native language. Wiki expects that the sentence should be understood by the translator, internalize it and write in native language format.
* English word for word translation is adopted which results in being not intelligible in the native language. Wiki expects that the sentence should be understood by the translator, internalize it and write in native language format.
* English idioms and phrases may not be applicable in native context which should find an Indian substitute .
* English idioms and phrases may not be applicable in native context which should find an Indian substitute .


==Wiki Issues==
==Wiki Issues==

=== Article Selection ===
=== Article Selection ===

* Issue 1: Many articles have been about American pop stars, films etc, which have lesser priority on Tamil Wikipedia.
* Issue 1: Many articles have been about American pop stars, films etc, which have lesser priority on Tamil Wikipedia.
* Issue 2: Several articles replace good quality Tamil Wikipedia articles that were existing.
* Issue 2: Several articles replace good quality Tamil Wikipedia articles that were existing.
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=== Layout ===
=== Layout ===

* Many translated articles do not even follow the layout structure of the English article. Many articles are in a scramble. Please follow the guide line [[:en:Wikipedia:Layout|here]] or [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:பக்க வடிவமைப்பு கையேடு|here]]
* Many translated articles do not even follow the layout structure of the English article. Many articles are in a scramble. Please follow the guide line [[:en:Wikipedia:Layout|here]] or [[விக்கிப்பீடியா:பக்க வடிவமைப்பு கையேடு|here]]


=== Templates ===
=== Templates ===

* Many templates of English Wikipedia are not in the Tamil Wikipedia. All necessary templates needs to be translated, and localized before using them. Just copying the template names is not helpful. The information is not displayed and distorts the page layout.
* Many templates of English Wikipedia are not in the Tamil Wikipedia. All necessary templates needs to be translated, and localized before using them. Just copying the template names is not helpful. The information is not displayed and distorts the page layout.


=== Missing Images ===
=== Missing Images ===

* Not all images in English Wikipedia are present in Tamil Wikipedia. Only if the images are present in Wikimedia Commons, they get displayed here automatically. Just coping the image name is not helpful. This results in articles with image placeholders without any pictures. Users derive no benefit from this.
* Not all images in English Wikipedia are present in Tamil Wikipedia. Only if the images are present in Wikimedia Commons, they get displayed here automatically. Just coping the image name is not helpful. This results in articles with image placeholders without any pictures. Users derive no benefit from this.


=== Internal Links ===
=== Internal Links ===

* Many internal links are made inappropriately. As in Tamil language, case suffixes attaches with the noun, internal links are given to such terms than nouns. Crudely like, <nowiki>[[in Chennai]] </nowiki> instead of in <nowiki> [[Chennai]]</nowiki>.
* Many internal links are made inappropriately. As in Tamil language, case suffixes attaches with the noun, internal links are given to such terms than nouns. Crudely like, <nowiki>[[in Chennai]] </nowiki> instead of in <nowiki> [[Chennai]]</nowiki>.
* New red links are created with a slight difference of spelling. A crude example will be, while an article by name Delhi may be already there but referring it as Dilli and causing a red links.
* New red links are created with a slight difference of spelling. A crude example will be, while an article by name Delhi may be already there but referring it as Dilli and causing a red links.
* Red links serve as inspiration to create new articles only if there are used in limited number. Too many red links impedes the flow of reading. If a translator is not sure if he will create the article in future, better not to link it.
* Red links serve as inspiration to create new articles only if there are used in limited number. Too many red links impedes the flow of reading. If a translator is not sure if he will create the article in future, better not to link it.




== Guides and Help ==
== Guides and Help ==

06:03, 27 ஏப்பிரல் 2010 இல் நிலவும் திருத்தம்

Google's translation initiative, and the willingness to co-operate and work with the local wikis is greatly appreciated. The following recommendations are intended to improve the outcomes of this initiative.

Translation Issues

Article's Title

  • Article titles are in the English language or mixed. They should be in Tamil (Translated or Transliterated)
  • Article titles are incorrectly translated, and/or formatted.

Technical Terms

Many articles require the use of proper Tamil technical terms. For guides and references please refer to கலைச்சொல் செயல்பாடுகள் ஒருங்கிணைவு. Tamil Wiktionary has more than 1,12,000 terms. If the user needs help, request for help here

Style and Prose

It is critical to write the articles in a style appropriate for an encyclopedia. This style is different from that of a blog, or popular magazines. Please refer to நடைக் கையேடு for further guidance.

Translation Quality

  • English word for word translation is adopted which results in being not intelligible in the native language. Wiki expects that the sentence should be understood by the translator, internalize it and write in native language format.
  • English idioms and phrases may not be applicable in native context which should find an Indian substitute .

Wiki Issues

Article Selection

Layout

  • Many translated articles do not even follow the layout structure of the English article. Many articles are in a scramble. Please follow the guide line here or here

Templates

  • Many templates of English Wikipedia are not in the Tamil Wikipedia. All necessary templates needs to be translated, and localized before using them. Just copying the template names is not helpful. The information is not displayed and distorts the page layout.

Missing Images

  • Not all images in English Wikipedia are present in Tamil Wikipedia. Only if the images are present in Wikimedia Commons, they get displayed here automatically. Just coping the image name is not helpful. This results in articles with image placeholders without any pictures. Users derive no benefit from this.

Internal Links

  • Many internal links are made inappropriately. As in Tamil language, case suffixes attaches with the noun, internal links are given to such terms than nouns. Crudely like, [[in Chennai]] instead of in [[Chennai]].
  • New red links are created with a slight difference of spelling. A crude example will be, while an article by name Delhi may be already there but referring it as Dilli and causing a red links.
  • Red links serve as inspiration to create new articles only if there are used in limited number. Too many red links impedes the flow of reading. If a translator is not sure if he will create the article in future, better not to link it.

Guides and Help