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விக்கிநுட்ப பயிற்சி - CCD - on-wiki technical skills training

பங்களிப்பாளர்கள் - Participants - Apr 29

1. பாஹிம் -
2. எஸ்ஸார்
3. சண்முகம்
4. சஞ்சீவி சிவகுமார்
5. அருளரசன் - User:Arulghsr
6. ஆதவன்
7. முஹம்மது அம்மார் - பயனர்:Mohammed Ammar
8.பாலசுப்ரமணியம் பயனர்:Balurbala
9. செந்தமிழ்க்கோதை பயனர்:உலோ.செந்தமிழ்க்கோதை
10. தகவலுழவன்
11. மதனாகரன்
12. மாதவன்
13. செம்மல் - User:Semmal50
14. பயனர்:MTSudar- சுடர்
15. இரவி
16. தமிழ்பரிதி மாரி
17. பரிதிமதி
18. சுவர்ணா
19. ஸ்ரீநிவாசன்
20. பாலாஜி -User:Balajijagadesh

தேவைப்படும் பயிற்சிகள்

hotcat
AWB
Wikidata - integration
References - Proveit - to add reference
புதிய பகுப்பு உருவாக்குதல்
Image - upload and usage
InfoBox
Uploading photos from mobile
Beta features - intro
Javascript tools
பங்களிப்பாளர் விவரங்கள் - statistics urls
SVG - text translation
Move cc pictures from english wiki to commons
Copyright

Bugs:

1. white space char before title -
2. Content Translation - தலைப்புப் பகுதியில் Ctrl + M பயன்படுத்தமுடியவில்லை.

Evening session :

Copyrights by Srinivasan

CCD - Help make communities make a quality progress.
Portuguese community at Brazil - good at technicalities but lack communications.
CCD program helped them solve the issue by training community members in writing press releases, doing intervies,

Tools being discussed விக்கிக் கருவிகள் :
https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/பயனர்:Asaf_(WMF)/Community_Capacity_Development/Tools

Hay's Tool Directory
https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/#/
தற்போது 318 கருவிகள் உள்ளன.

Wikipedia GapFinder
http://recommend.wmflabs.org/#Recommend
கட்டுரைகளை மொழிபெயர்ப்பதற்கான பரிந்துரைகளைப் பெற்றுக்கொள்வதற்குப் பயன்படுத்தப்படுகின்றது.
அண்மையில் கூடுதலான பார்வைகளைப் பெற்ற கட்டுரைகள் இங்குப் பட்டியலிடப்படுகின்றன.
குறிச்சொற்களைக் கொடுத்து, தொடர்புடைய கட்டுரைகளைத் தேடிப்பெற்றுக்கொள்ளமுடியும்.

Most wanted
http://tools.wmflabs.org/most-wanted/index.php?hints=0&project=tawiki&number=50
தமிழ் விக்கிப்பீடியாவில் கூடுதலாக வேண்டப்படும் கட்டுரைகளை அறிந்துகொள்ள இக்கருவியைப் பயன்படுத்தலாம்.
சிவப்பு உள்ளிணைப்புகளின் எண்ணிக்கையின் அடிப்படையில் கூடுதலாக வேண்டப்படும் கட்டுரைகள் இக்கருவியில் பட்டியலிடப்படுகின்றன.

- குறிப்பு: மின்னல் (Twinkle) கருவியைப் பயன்படுத்தி, ஆங்கிலச் சிவப்பு உள்ளிணைப்புகள் நீக்கப்படவேண்டும்.

Missing Topics
http://tools.wmflabs.org/missingtopics/

Wiki ToDo
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wiki-todo/
ஏதாவது ஒரு கட்டுரை எழுமாற்றாகத் தெரிவுசெய்யப்பட்டு, அக்கட்டுரையில் செய்யவேண்டிய சில தொகுப்புகளுக்கான பரிந்துரைகளை இக்கருவி வழங்குகின்றது.

Autocomplete Links
உள்ளிணைப்புகளைச் சேர்க்கும்போது பரிந்துரைகளைப் பெறுவதற்கான (தேடற்பெட்டி போல்) கருவி ஆகும்.
importScript('User:Asaf (WMF)/autocomplete.js');
என்ற நிரலை "சிறப்பு:MyPage/common.js" என்ற பக்கத்தில் சேர்க்கவும்.

General help on the common.js magic space is here:

   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalCssJs

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தானியங்கிப் பயிற்சிப் பட்டறை

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Scripts
ஏற்கனவே உள்ள பைத்தன் நிரல்கள்

https://paws.wmflabs.org/ - தமிழ்ப் பெயர்கள் வேலைசெய்யவில்லை. வழுப்பதியவேண்டும்.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/PAWS - உதவிக்குறிப்புகள்

1. New --> Text File
2. user-config.py என மறுபெயரிடுக.
3. mylang = 'ta' (விக்சனரி ஆயின், family='wiktionary')
4. Open Terminal
5. pwb.py login
6. Go to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/PAWS
7. pwb.py listpages -help
8. pwb.py replace -help
9. run.sh புதிய உரை ஆவணம் (தமிழ் வேலைசெய்யாவிடின்)
10. PageList.txt புதிய உரை ஆவணம் (பக்கத்தைக் குறிப்பிடவும். 11இற்குக் கீழுள்ளது.)
11. pwb.py replace.py -file:PageList.txt test சோதனை -simulate (run.sh இல் இடவும்.) - (தானியங்கி மாற்றங்கள் செய்யவேண்டுமாயின், -simulate ஐ எடுத்து விடவும்.)
12 pwb.py replace.py -file:PageList.txt -regex 'test\b' 'சோதனை' -simulate (run.sh இல் இடவும்.) (test மாற்றவேண்டும், testing மாற்றவேண்டாம் என்றால்)

பயனர்:Shanmugamp7/test

https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/பயனர்:Shanmugamp7/test

12. bash run.sh (தமிழ் வேலைசெய்யாவிடின்)
13. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/replace.py

https://ta.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:தனி_வீடு.pdf/5

இரண்ட்ையும்
இரண்டையும்

திருவ்டியில்
திருவடியில்

"கிடைக் கும்":"கிடைக்கும்","த் திலிருந்":"த்திலிருந்"

ைர க்

pwb.py replace.py -search: -regex 'test\b' சோதனை -simulate

fixes['example'] = {

   'regex': False,

   'replacements': [

       (r'கிரு.ர்', 'கிறார்'),

       (r'இரண்ட்ையும்', 'இரண்டையும்'),      

   ]

   

   pwb.py replace.py -search:'கிரு.ர்' -search:'இரண்ட்ையும்' -fix:'example'

fixes['mylist'] = {

   'regex': False,

   'msg': { 

       '_default':u' test bot edit',

       },

   'replacements': [

       (r'இரண்ட்ையும்', 'இரண்டையும்'),      

   ]

   }

pwb.py replace.py -search:'இரண்ட்ையும்' -fix:mylist
pwb.py replace.py -xml:/public/dumps/public/tawikisource/20160407/tawikisource-20160407-pages-articles.xml.bz2 -fix:unwantedwords

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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/
வழுக்களைப் பதிவுசெய்ய.

http://webchat.freenode.net/

wikimedia-tech

https://lists.wikimedia.org
மின்னஞ்சல்

wiki ta mailing list

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikita-l

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2016.05.01

Wikidata[தொகு]

Embedding data from Wikidata[தொகு]

(the 2-minute explanation)

The {{#property}} function:

   1. use  on a person's article, to embed that person's "date of birth" (P569) property.

   2. user 11 மார்ச்சு 1952 on *any* page, to embed Douglas Adams's (Q42) date of birth.

Proposing new properties[தொகு]

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal

உருப்படிகளை (item) இனங்காண்பதற்காக ஒவ்வோர் உருப்படிக்கும் ஒவ்வோர் இலக்கம் வழங்கப்படும்.
எ-டு: Chennai - Q1352

Wikidata - item - statements - properties

importScript('User:Bene*/statementfilter.js'); // statement filter quicksearch box -- add this line to your Userspace common.js, e.g. User:Asaf (WMF)/common.js

http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator - Reasonator

http://tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/harvesttemplates/ - Harvest Templates

Please upload your photos to Commons under:

https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/வார்ப்புரு:Wd

எ-டு:

Failed to render property 1412: 1412 property not found.

http://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/propbrowse/ - Wikidata Propbrowse

http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/ - Wikidata Game
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/distributed/ - Distributed Wikidata Game
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-timeline/ - Wikidata Timeline
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/ - Wikidata Todo
https://tools.wmflabs.org/croptool/ - CropTool

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal

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SPARQL
https://query.wikidata.org/

இட்டு Ctrl + Space தட்டச்சிட்டால் பரிந்துரைகளைப் பெறமுடியும்.

AND இற்காக .
OR இற்காக:-

Cricket

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?handedLabel
WHERE
{

       ?item wdt:P106 wd:Q12299841 .

   ?item wdt:P552 ?handed .

       SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "ta,en" }

}

இங்கு item, handed என்பன மாறிகள்.

Optional:-

Cats

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?handedLabel
WHERE
{

       ?item wdt:P106 wd:Q12299841 .

 OPTIONAL {

   ?item wdt:P552 ?handed .

}

       SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "ta,en" }

}

வடிகட்டி - FILTER(!bound(?handed))

https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Cats%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FhandedLabel%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP106%20wd%3AQ12299841%20.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP552%20%3Fhanded%20.%0A%20%7D%0A%20%20%20FILTER(!bound(%3Fhanded))%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22ta%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%7D

LIMIT - வரையறுக்க
ORDER BY - வரிசைப்படுத்த

https://query.wikidata.org/#%23French%20people%20with%20an%20article%20on%20the%20English%20Wikipedia%20but%20not%20on%20the%20French%20one%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20(COUNT(distinct%20%3Fsitelink)%20as%20%3Fcount)%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP1412%20wd%3AQ5885%20.%0A%09%3Fsitelink%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%0A%09FILTER%20EXISTS%20%7B%20%3Fwen%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%20%3Fwen%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%09FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%20%7B%20%3Fwfr%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%20%3Fwfr%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22ta%22%20%7D%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%09%09bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22ta%2Cen%22%20.%0A%09%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC(%3Fcount)

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/SPARQL_Query_Examples - எடுத்துக்காட்டுகள்

FEEDBACK[தொகு]

(most is translated real-time from Tamil)

- Very happy! Very useful because he knew some programming. 2 days is great, more

 is really hard, 2d is good time. If you have an engineering background, it is

 great since you know people with same language. It was all great. Had ideas like

 this, but did not know where it is or what to do. It is great to be aware.

- It is a new thing. User guide, need follow up. Offline setup. No documentation

 for followup, needs videos - since there is no guarantee of personal help later on.

 Screencasts are super useful since they stay on after. Would be great if that

 could be recorded afterwards.

- Phabricator. Was given more importance. Not sure if useful. Other person says

 it was super useful, they have never used it. It was great for people who were 

 here who had never used a ticket tracking system. Was right amount of detail for

 most, but not all.

- What does success look like for this? How is this being evaluated? How is this

 ongoing?  (Answer from Asaf)

 It is not to just demo tools - it is to empower them to take charge of their tech destiny.

  - Wikidata

  - Survey - not just you but everyone in tamil community, do they feel that the community

    as a whole is better equipped? Are bot requests answered?

  - What is cared about is the state of tamil community, not a single volunteer. If there is a

    tech task or bug to report, is there someone who is aware of what to do to get it resolved?

 - Notice bot activity.

 - If there is a significant improvement, we will assume this contributed to success

- Are there other modes of training? (Answer from Asaf)

 - This is the start of the heart of the experiment.

 - Hope is that when there is a technical issue, you will feel better and reach out. Either in

   channels that you are already aware of or by just emailing us. 

 - We deliberately pay attention to tech needs of tamil community, but we need them to tell us

 - Provide more feedback - it is a two sided conversation, to ask them, as it asks, etc.

- What is the commitment from staff? Is there an assurance that there is going to be more staff

time dedicated to actually providing *attention*?

- (asaf) I can promise you attention, I can not promise solutions / bug fixes. We need to be able

give you an answer. This is something I do want to commit to, even if the response is 'not right

now, here is a schedule'.

- We had community survey, never thought tamil community needs technical training, sometimes back.

So when presented with 6 domains of possible training, thought they were self sufficient. Now that

opinion has changed, we still have a long way to go. Need to take to the next stage. We also have

people who do not know how to use VE / GDrive, etc. Even if we have 5d training there is enough

material to be said to fixed. Very good to do this without a PEG. Making it easy is nice for smaller

communities

- People have lots of ideas and things to do, but are doing things manually. Someone had started to

program to assist. Very lazy to learn, is nice to have someone to show you 'yeah, this is what you

can do'. Small programs already do most of those things.

- Project is ongoing to integrate Google OCR with Wikisource, see how that goes.

- PAWS we were using for running the bots was very useful - setting up terminal and other things

takes one day. This was very useful, made it possible to access it everywhere. It was great.

- Next might be more hackathon - with people in Chennai, have set of goals and help build them.

All wiki contributors will have some requirements with them, need to collect requirements and work

on a hackaton to build them. Otherwise you write code in your home and you get bored or you have

a question and you do not know to ask. IRC has TZ problems, mailing lists have high latency, having

one set up of local in person hackathons will be nice.

- (Yuvi has promised to do some gadget help!)

- PWB setting up takes too much time, doubly so with Windows / limited internet / language issues.

- initial confusion about where this was going. There were too many tools / demos and that was a bit

confusing. Wikidata demo was very super cool, but some of the other tools was a little too much. We

need to pace the program because there were some newbies who needed hands-on help.

- Having the translation happened help. Was able to approach, even people who did speak english were

 intimidated. So having someone super approachable who spoke the language was great. People had

 seen some of the videos and were intimidated about English, so having someone made that useful.

Yuvi, Important in handson training - how to raise tickets in phabricator and interact with devs and sysadmins.
There are even some bugs reported and reolved/solution has been provided.
Happy about the Bot session. This is first session using paws (Jupyter).
Though there are some small bugs everyone was able to do some handson using the bots.

Why this community?

(Asaf) - Pilot program. Unlike past programs, we didn't start with 50 communiteies or 100 training events but small with a pilot. So from the beginning we decided to do it only in 2 as a pilot,

one small and one large, since there are different dynamics. People in the room here are a large

force in the tamil community, but in a larger community, any 20 people will never be a significant enough force because they are a larger group.

I published last year set up an open call for communities to sign up for working with the WMF to figure

out what capacity we could build together, in *partnership* (stress on partnership). Looking for

communities he could work with. As an example, there was a single wikipedian who signed up but was

not sure there was a community behind him. Building a whole community's capacity, with consensus, training

for something that is wanted by the community. Never force anything on the community. 5-6 communities expressed

interest. What was determined is wether you can have a partnership or wether they can't pull through with the amount

of work they need to do about it. Everyone did a lot of work to make this happen. Looking for communities that were not

just vaguely interested but looking to actively help.

India is 'strategic', so more Tamil was advantageos. Asaf knew Ravi personally, so he knows and trusts his organizational

skills. He is also accepted in this community, and he can be accepted to represent most of the community. This is not

true for all communities. Not all comminitues are relatively harmonious as the tamil community is. The underlying reason is

that Asaf intuitively thinks the CCD is a good idea. Wanted to take a 'safe' bet, to know for sure that this will happen regardless

of turmoil at the WMF, so that the CCD program gets a fair chance to prove itself worthwhile.

When you come to a local community, you meet far more people and meet different profiles of contributors. Important to

physically meet you and talk to you and observe during breaks/etc. Everything was smooth, no wasting time dealing with

things not working. Able to focus on what we came to do. Asaf found the attendees a receptive audience, not always there was enough

time to practice every tool individually. Maybe demo fewer tools and practice / play around for each tool. Y'all came to learn

and not just socialize.

Asaf was happy with the turnout. 15-30 would've been great, we ended up with ~22 people. Declined some newbies.

Thanks to the TVA for getting full staff here to support us during May Day for getting logistics totally sorted.

Thanks to Ravi! (*applause*)

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Connect to database from Jupyter: https://gist.github.com/yuvipanda/48ce62207278b90fcd35

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Wikidata[தொகு]

Tutorial[தொகு]

Glossary[தொகு]

Some suggested ways to contribute[தொகு]

Embedding data from Wikidata[தொகு]

Proposing new properties[தொகு]

FEEDBACK[தொகு]